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Friday, September 9th, 2011
6:34 am	Rather than love, than money, than fame...give me truth. Henry David Thoreau (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Friday, August 26th, 2011
8:30 am	God Says You're Forgivable by Rick Warren I am the God who forgives your sins, and I do this because of who I am. I will not hold your sins against you. (Isaiah 43:25 TEV) When something starts going wrong in your life, do you automatically think, “God's getting even with me. I know it! I did that thing I'm ashamed of yesterday (or last year or twenty years ago), and now he's settling the score”? Does God really treat his children that way? Absolutely not! Isaiah says God doesn't hold our sins against us. Once we've confessed our sins to him, it's all forgiven and forgotten, and he doesn't even bring up the past. If you're a Christian, pay close attention to Ephesians 1:4-5: “Even before the world was made, God had already chosen us to be his through our union with Christ, so that we would be holy and without fault before him. Because of his love God had already decided that through Jesus Christ he would make us his children—this was his pleasure and purpose” (GNT). Do you realize that when God looks at you, he sees you through Jesus Christ? When Jesus died on the cross, he paid for all of your sins, so you are forgiven and they are forgotten. That's why becoming a Christian is such GOOD NEWS. I give Jesus my life, and he takes it, forgives me and then gives me a new chance. He says, "Now I see you without a single fault. You stand before me covered with my love.” (Comment on this)
Wednesday, August 24th, 2011
2:29 pm	Buffalo today, Pittsburgh tomorrow, New York on Sunday. (Comment on this)
Monday, May 9th, 2011
10:23 am	Monday, May 09, 2011 Pray for Others by Rick Warren “In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy.” Philippians 1:4 (NIV) The more specific you are in prayer, the more specific the answer will be. The quickest way to change a relationship from bad to good is to start thanking God for people you are having difficulty getting along with. Praying for them will do two things -- change your attitude and change them. Positive praying is much more powerful than positive thinking. People may resist our help, spurn our appeals, and reject our suggestions, but they are powerless against our prayers. What do you pray? The more specific you are in prayer, the more specific the answer will be. In Philippians 1:9-11, Paul spells out exactly what he’s praying for people. “And this is my prayer, that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight so that you may be able to discern what is best and be pure and blameless until the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God.” (NIV) These verses give you four things you can pray for people today – “Abound in love …” Pray that they will grow in love. “Discern what is best …” Pray that they make wise choices. “Be pure and blameless …” Pray that they will do the right thing. “Filled with the fruit of righteousness …” Pray that they will live for God’s glory. (Comment on this)
Monday, January 29th, 2007
8:21 am	I went back and read some of these entries...I am ashamed that I wrote some of them and I marvel at how much I have changed in such a short time. For the better, I hope. No progress has been made since the last entry. By progress, I mean communication. I really have no idea what is going on with ML. We've been friends since kindergarten, I can't believe it's going to end like this. Whenever I start to think, "ok, she's happy, that's what we all want for her," I remind myself that happiness can never be based on a lie. Never ever. Stepping back has made me realize that my criticism of them both was really childish. Some of those descriptions of MD could have been written by Eminem. I am actually hoping this saga will come to an end, that Whack will come to her senses and ditch the guy who treats her like a charwoman and we will return to the dysfunctional friendship we once had. Their relationship will end, about this I have no doubt. It's based on too many lies--sinking sand. Remember my new and improved, kinder gentler livejournal. (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Friday, December 15th, 2006
8:29 am	Not much to post since Whack and I aren't speaking. I have to keep reminding myself that it's I who is mad at HER, and not the other way around. I have this instinct to try to patch things up, but why should I? If she apologized to me and admitted that she lied and deceived and ignored and used, then I could go from there. But I am not going to make the first move and say "I'm sorry I don't call you anymore and we didn't include you when Anonymous was home." A. I'm not sorry I don't call her anymore since I can't believe a word she says and B. Why should I be the nice person and let her be the victim yet again. She only used the house closing thing as a way to force me to communicate with her. I mailed her papers back to her without a letter. Just documents in an envelope. (Comment on this)
Saturday, December 2nd, 2006
11:01 am	Thanks to loyal reader Anonymous! Whenever there are periods of non-communication, this journal is the biggest loser. So I emailed Whack, my usual "I didn't notice we haven't talked in 2 weeks, have you?" email. I mentioned Thanksgiving, the dog, the kids, the usual stuff and ended it with "call me." I didn't hear back from her, not yet anyway. I'm kind of hoping she is mad at me--I am at a loss as to what to buy her for Christmas...not to mention the awkward topic of her birthday. I just bought a book about Medjugorje...it's been out a long time..."Visions of the Children" by Janice Connell. One thing in it, among a million other disturbingly appropriate things, said that when we are very bothered by someone's behavior, often it is our own behavior that is bothering us. Not that this applies totally to Whack--maybe a little though. Whenever I think about telling her off, I remember I'm not perfect, far from it. Off to a swim meet in Medina--I really thought they would cancel since the weather is nasty. No such luck. Current Mood: indifferent (2 Comments |Comment on this)
Thursday, November 30th, 2006
2:29 pm	Not much is new on the Whack front. She has not callled me since before Thanksgiving. I'm sure she will say that she called--though last time she tried that, I actually said "we have caller id" and she said "well check it." She named her new dog Bugsy. There was a time when she thought about getting a dog before then changed her mind because it would have to be alone all day. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. She'll be retiring soon though--hahahahah! Wedding date postponed from March 31 to May 11. Yes, if I was getting married 4 months from now, 6 more weeks would make all the difference in the world...planning wise. I actually have a lot of my Christmas shopping done. We managed to get a Nintendo Wii on Thanksgiving day. Whoop de doo. (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Thursday, November 2nd, 2006
12:01 pm	I'm thinking of starting a new livejournal. I'll send you links when I do it. (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Friday, October 27th, 2006
10:54 am	Judge not... It's really hard to not be judgmental when it comes to Whack. I didn't post anything recently because all the Whack-news was concerning Julie's serious surgery and the complications that followed, and Whack's bizarre reactions. Fearing the worst, commenting on here would have been too insensitive (because most of these entries are sooo sensitive.) Now that Julie is, according to reliable sources, out of the woods, it's somewhat safe to comment on the Whack beyond Whack thing that Whack told me yesterday. I had just come from Anonymous's house where she graciously notarized my signature and I decided to call Whack. She filled me in on the Julie stuff which she is getting from her cousin Nancy. Then she tells me that she and His Gayness are traveling to Washington DC this weekend (Fri-Mon) to "watch his daughter run a maraton." First question is "how do you watch someone run a marathon...without running a marathon yourself?" She then says she is taking Friday and Monday off from school as "family sick days" and says very seriously "you can't tell anyone." So apparently she is telling her co-workers that she is going to Arizona to see Julie? Though Anon commented that she told her she didn' t know what excuse she would give on Tuesday, her attitude to me was that she was just telling them that she went to AZ. Disgusting. Paul reminded me that she did the same thing when her dad was sick and she took a trip to see Ken in Miami. It's one thing to ditch school to go to DC...but to use her mother's illness as a failsafe excuse? Especially under these circumstances? Just when I thought she couldn't possibly out-Whack the last Whack thing she did. Delusional as ever, she said that she originally took these two days as Family Sick Days long before she decided to go to DC because she really was planning to go to AZ if necessary. Yeah, right. (Comment on this)
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006
5:21 pm	More whack than ever After a week passed with no communication, I emailed Whack to say "hi." She didn't email back but called immediately after school; it made me wonder if this whole week she had been wondering if I knew about the Century Manor/Chinese Buffet hoax and was mad, and I'm sure she could have cared less but still wanted to avoid a confrontation about her lying. Once she got the email, she knew I was still in the dark, she had gotten away with it, and called right away. The conversation was bizarre. I felt like a CIA agent who has to be de-briefed of all the information. It was too much to sink in in one day. 1. She complained about school and said "I have to retire." I have never heard her say that before but she said it like it was something she says a lot. I wonder if she tells Mike that to see if he will say "Great idea! You can live off me for the rest of your life!" 2. She also said "I have to get married" in the same type of "I'm so done with all this crap" tone. She was on the internet looking for wedding venues and she came up with the Breakers in Palm Beach. He was at work of course; I don't think she is allowed to plan a wedding at this point. 3. She said she got a letter from Dan Palumbo, Julie's lawyer, saying that the agreement is 25percent plus 10k blood money, and that if she agrees she is to do nothing. Here we go--she wants me to write a letter that will make me look like an idiot, saying that yeah, she agrees even though all her documents say the split is 50/50. Sarah, do not write a letter. Do not even think about doing anything in this realm. This is your last warning. I'm serious. 4. She is still claiming that Julie's surgery is yet another attempt to get someone to operate on her and that AMW (America's Most Wanted? No, Ann Marie Wright) told her that Julie is leaving for AZ soon. She said that now she feels the same way about Julie that she does about Jim--they were horrible to her and she never wants to see either one of them again. Yes, she really said that. As if she can compare the two!!!! 5. She said that they were going to CUba Bistro for dinner with Tony. He's just "Tony" now, not Tony Torre anymore, because they are so close. Tony wanted to take them out for dinner for their engagement. What a bonus to getting engaged, people buy you dinners! Almost a good enough reason to do it, said Mike. That's all I can think of right now, but I know there is more. (Comment on this)
Monday, September 18th, 2006
12:09 pm	I got one call from Whack since Missy's birthday, but I was outside. She didn't leave a message (I think it was Saturday afternoon). We didn't do anything to acknowledge Fagotty-Ass-Faggot's birthday, so she might be mad about that. I said this to Paul--I'm done buying gifts for her boyfriends! Ever since she went on one date with Tom Kelly and she made Paul put this fireman print in a frame for him, it seems like we have been extending gifts to her men. What happens to all these gifts anyway? Tom Kelly only lasted two more dates and was never heard from again. Another example? We gave Jim a box of cigars that Milo ordered from Thompson's. Unbeknownst to us, they tried to return them to get the money, but Thompson's just credited Milo's account and didn't send them money. Milo then said "hey, they sent back those cigars!" I remember asking her about them and she just said "oh, yeah, Jim wanted a different kind" which was a LIE, otherwise it would have been an EXCHANGE which it wasn't. Milo said they were in his place on Saturday night and that Whack was wearing "some white dress" which I just cannot picture (after Labor Day, no less.) He also said she looked like she has put on weight, which really cracked me up. She would be so thrilled to hear that. Next time she says "So, what is everyone saying???" all annoying like she expects to here "everyone is sooo jealous of how lucky and happy you are!!!" I will say "Milo said you look like you gained weight." Must be all the extra cocktails. Current Mood: amused (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006
4:16 pm	So mad at Whack Everyone already knows about my latest Whack-encounter. This has made me angry all day long. 1. I did not even want her to come if she was bringing Mike. 2. I didn't care one way or other if she even came. 3. I certainly did not want her to show up drunk. 4. I gave up a long time ago changing the kids' choice of restaurants just to suit her. Why does she feel the need to lie about everything? I've said it before, but this time I have to do something confrontational. I think it would be best if Anonymous and I confronted her together so there is a witness, and so she can't go to the other one and say "S (or F) did something so horrible to me." The idea of doing that though just makes me think "is it worth it?" The issues I want to raise with her are: 1. We have caught her in many lies over the past year. She was not a habitual liar pre-Mike. She tended to tell stories that showed her in the best light, but she wouldn't say "I'm home" when really she was somewhere else. 2. She has changed a lot due to Mike, and not for the better. She drinks to excess on school nights, and drives while drunk; she used to spend a lot of time with her old friends and now she acts like we are not good enough...yes, it's understandable to spend time with your new boyfriend, but to go from seeing each and every soccer game one year and zero the next? from walking every night to never? from calling every day to once a week (calling to see if you are divorced yet doesn't count). 3. She has cut her ties with her mother and her house ensuring that she can never go back to either one. This is dangerous considering it's for a guy you've known one year who doesn't have the greatest track record with long term relationships. I don't want to get into anything specific about Mike that I don't like because then it will look like I just don't like him. 4. Her previous engagement and marriage were too recent for people to pretend they didn't exist or they were just a foolish mistake that wasn't her fault. 5. Jim used her, no doubt. She knows that now, but we all saw it back then. Mike is using her now, but she does'nt care...she lets him, just the way she let Jim use her before. When/if she gets tired of it, she will turn on Mike and say "you used me!" 6. She has made it clear that everyone takes a back seat to Mike's every whim. THis would be fine for a couple of sixteen year olds. 7. What if Mike breaks up with her? Has she considered that for one second? Is there any escape route planned. 8. She says Mike respects her so much but I have personally seen him disrespect her on more than one occaision. As Anonymous said, maybe I just need to distance myself from her for a while, not call her, not answer her calls and maybe she will figure out that I'm pissed at her. If I read about this in Dear Abby, I would say, "that girl needs help." (Comment on this)
Friday, September 8th, 2006
2:16 pm	First post since the joyous event. I can hardly type I'm so excited for the happy couple! Before we left for vacation, I was talking to Whack on the phone and Mike walked into the room with her. She said "Oooh, fancy!" I didn't ask what could have prompted that response but I can only imagine what might be "fancy" by his standards. Liberace is coming to mind, only fancier. She was going on about Julie on the phone yesterday and I agreed with something she said--not a "yes, you are absolutely right" but more "mm hmm" as if to say "I heard you." She launched into "thank you so much, no one else has agreed with me on this." Now she will run to Julie and say "Sarah agrees!!!!!!!" Whatthehellever. She called yesterday to see if I gave her the right key to her own house. Mike locked her out and the key she gave me which I gave her back didn't work. Did he change the locks on her? That would be funny. Good thing I didn't need to use the key...I had the garage door opener and they left the door inside unlocked while they were gone. On her first day of school, she called to say "I was in such demand today" from people who wanted to congratulate her. And she couldn't stop talking about how happy Milo was for them...somehow I just can't picture that, esp. since the shower we had for her at his place. She really thinks people don't remember that stuff, or that they all realize it was just a silly mistake that never should have happened and didn't affect anyone anyway. (Comment on this)
Thursday, August 17th, 2006
10:13 am	Not much to report. Whack invited us to go to the movies with her and Ted. I backed out, not for any real reason, I just didn't feel like going. They were going to see Talladega Nights, which I probably won't even watch on video. Interesting is the reason she was going--Faggot was going "out to dinner." She never said any details about it, so I finally asked why he was going alone and she said "oh, he's going with Dr. Jaremko so he can talk his kids into going to medical school." I'm not sure if Jaremko's kids were going to dinner, or if it was just Mike and Dr. J. Either way, would a conversation like that be soo boring for Whack that she couldn't possibly tag along? I'm sure it wasn't her choice to not go, Mike probably told her no. We all know Whack would jump at any chance to socialize with other doctors. She and I are both having yard sales on Saturday. She said that MIke is bringing a bunch of stuff over for her to sell. I said "I really want to put the stuff out with a sign that says "everything is free" and go inside and lock the doors." She replied, "Me too. But I really need the money." Must be nice to have such a rich boyfriend that you need the money from selling your old clothes. I think I told all my readers this, but they came over to visit on Sunday night. He scolded her the way I would scold my kids if they ate 4 chocolate poptarts right before dinner(abe, yesterday). He said, in a mean voice I haven't heard before "what the hell are you eating now???" when she ate a few decadent Lemonheads. He announced in a very snooty voice I've heard a million times, "I'm on a no flour/no sugar diet." Right, Mike. He seems to go for every single fad diet that comes out. And his outfit. Picture a man in a woman's bathing suit and you're almost there. Short shorts, in a bathing suit material, with a skin tight muscle shirt and a slightly looser tshirt over it. I forgot to tell this part, it just came back to me while I was trying to recreate the ensemble. He had a streak of orange on his forehead obviously from fake tanning lotion. Yuck. She said that WhackMom listed her/their/her house with a realtor. She didn't have much to say about that other than "I just want my fair share" and "the only papers I have say it's a 50/50 split." I don't know if she is lying or if she really doesn't remember signing the other contract. I'm sure the house will sell, and all the parties will be deliriously happy and peace will abound. HAHA! She had a lot of bad things to say about Jenna and Barbara. Kind of reminded me of the things she said about Jim's family before they got married. Even the part where she said "I don't say a word." THis will haunt her someday, for sure. If and when she gets a committment from him, she will say more than a word about it. And peace will abound. Haha again! (Comment on this)
Thursday, August 10th, 2006
1:09 pm	This is pretty much a response to the comment on the last post. I wonder what was going on last week that neither of us got a call. My first thought was that they "discovered" the water leak and I was in trouble, but I realized if that were true, I'd get a call, not silence. Then I thought maybe she was waiting for me to call her to thank her for Missy's $25, and she was thinking I was rude for not mentioning it. With that thought, I called her and she acted like nothing was wrong at all, and here is the part that makes me MAD: when I said "I haven't talked to you since you were here last week" she said "Oh, I called you a bunch of times" which is a LIE. Come on, this is 2006: caller ID shows every call. I didn't argue. She said they went to Syracuse for the weekend and it was, in a word, wonderful. She didn't mention a Coach bag, I wonder if it was an after trip gift. The ring thing is hilarious. Yes, Mike will insist on profiting from it, I'm sure. If they were mine, I wouldn't keep them, but I'm not sure I would want money for them either. And what the heck is he doing sorting through her things? What possible reason could he have for doing that? Paul's guess was that he was deciding what he would allow her to bring to his place. That makes sense. No mention of Julie at all, and I didn't ask this time. You would think she would say she needs a valve replacement. In Whack-unrelated news: 1. We made reservations for Disney August 28-Sept 3. Kids are psyched. 2. I got a letter from the Grievance Committee that said Cappellini's complaint against me was "unwarranted" and they closed the file. Huge giant sigh of relief. 3. Our house addition is almost done, 2 months after their first estimate. 4. Soccer season is almost over, Missy's last game tonight, Abe's on Saturday, Ruby and Nigel's were last night. 5. We are having a huge yard sale August 19th. Back to Whack: Unhappy Whackaversary August 9th--a lot happened in those 4 long years: love, hate, they wrecked Julie's anniversary forever, the cops were called, a therapist came on the scene, she met the true love of her life, ditched her house, changed her hairstyle, became a slave---she must be exhausted! (Comment on this)
Monday, August 7th, 2006
11:20 am	Wow, it has been an entire week and I have not heard from WF even once, except for the one day she called my cel phone and I didn't get it--no message and no home phone call. According to Anon, in a hilarious email, Anon mentioned the time she took Whack's mom to the ER while they were in Florida. Knowing that Whackmom had told Whack about it, Whack tried to say that Whackneighbor JUST told her about it the day before. When confronted, she did her usual verbal shell game to try to get out of it. LIESSSSSSSSSSSS. We both wonder why? Why would she feel the need to lie about knowing that? Did she really think she could pretend that she didn't know about it? I guess what I am wondering is how does it make it better for Whack to have JUST found out about it, rather than to admit she knew all along? Paul said that when she does that, I just have to say "look, I know you are lying. I know you already knew about it." I'm sure then she would say "Why does everyone have to do this to me, no one is on my side, everyone is always trying to be mean to me! OK, fine, I knew about it, are you happy now?" (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Friday, August 4th, 2006
10:39 am	OK? Whack showed up in her bathing suit the other day. To be fair, she did ask on the phone a few minutes prior and I said the kids and Paul were swimming but I had work to do. So, it wasn't a total pop-in. She yells from the car to the kids "Make room for Aunt Mary!!!!" then does a cannonball into the pool. It's not the biggest pool in the world and there were 7 kids plus Paul in it at the time (Abe's two friends were here.) She proceeded to behave like a spoiled 5 year old, splashing, dunking, sliding, yelling (I have a strict no yelling/screaming rule with our kids in the pool since it is so close to the neighbors houses...I established this rule before the pool was even delivered)...she was the only one yelling. Then she leads all the kids in a "we want mom" chant and refuses to accept the fact that it's 3 pm on a Monday and I have work to do. I should show up at her school sometime and do the same thing. This is a situation that will never have a resolution no matter what. So I just went inside and worked but I felt like I had to get out there to keep her company since I didn't want to stick Paul and the kids with her. She acts like she's one of the kids; but she's more like the annoying kid. At an exact time, she left. Got out of the pool and left like she was Cinderella at 11:59. Her parting words were "same time tomorrow!" but she hasn't come back and hasn't called since then, and today is Friday. Here is the odd part. She showed up with a stuffed animal in a gift bag and and said "this is for Missy for watering the plants." I thought "ok, a stuffed animal, that's nice." Then Missy opens the card to find $25 cash inside. I don't know what to think. It's seems excessive. Is this their way to say "see how rich Mike is?" Or is this the way to say "we know it was a big giant pain." I don't know. (Comment on this)
Monday, July 31st, 2006
1:20 pm	I just talked to Whackfriend---good news, she's whack as ever. I want to write this right away lest I forget some of the phenomenally bizarre things she said. 1. Nothing was said about the water leaking. I didn't say that I touched it, and didn't have to say that I didn't either. They've been home since yesterday, so I assume they turned it back on, so they are aware of the leak if they weren' t already. I think she just didn't want to admit to me that there is something wrong with the house---it's perfect. 2. The plants were all up to standard, thank God. She did mention that she was "weeding" but that was not in my job description so "tough." 3. The mail was to her liking too--it included a wedding invitation from Dr. Chohan, which she must have referenced 10 times during the conversation. She said that it said "no boxed gifts" on it, which is odd. But what was more odd was the fact that she kept talking about it, like she is so special to be going to Dr. Chohan's daughter's wedding. She asked if Anonymous's family would be there, that she might see them there! Ok, I picked up her mail so I saw the invitation. It said Dr. Gayfag Asshat. "Guest" was not there. 4. No mention did she make of drunk-dialing Sherry and trying to make up. I tried to casually ask if she had talked to anyone and she said they were so busy, she didn't call anyone. LLLLLLies! 5. Also no mention of Julie going to the ER with Anonymous. I came right out and asked about Julie's health too, and all she said was that the angiogram had come back totally clean, that nothing was wrong with her. Then she said she had an absolutely horrible call from Julie on Saturday, in which she told Julie she'd be working at school next week and Julie said "when the hell are you going to clean that house out??!!" And that Julie keeps saying "your house" and she was all mad about that. Ahem, when she was in the house, if Julie had said "our house" WF would have said "whose house????" 6. And now for the piece de resistance. Ms. Joan Rivers Jr. not only had the tummy tuck, breast lift, hip liposuction trifecta: she also had liposuction on both arms. Not to be too graphic, but there is no other way to say it: Mike had to take care of her toilet needs. At all hours of the night, she would call "Daddy" and he would jump. Sorry but that is just sick and nasty to a whole new level. 7. When she was suffering in the hospital, Mike called the other sister and paid for her to come to Florida. ML was mad because she took it as a free vacation and flew down, got her nails done, shopped, had lunch with her mom, and visited the hospital once or twice. I think it's so funny for some reason. 8. ML seriously sounded like she was working out and I know that she was cleaning the whole house before he got home from work. At least my job there is done. (2 Comments |Comment on this)
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006
8:10 pm	It was worse I just talked to WF, and it was a lot worse than she said before, unless she overdid it. Apparently, the daughter had 2 pulmonary embolisms and other complications from surgery. An infection that Whack and Mike totally blamed on Brenda, Mrs. Ex Gaybob, who had been there prior to surgery. Who would even attempt to place blame like that? So she spent 4 days in ICU and is now home. Even the sister from DC went to Florida to visit, they all thought she was in trouble. ML goes "Hang on a second"....but she didn't put the phone down, she handed it to Mike. So I got to talk to him, and man was he dramatic. "oh you can't imagine how you feel, your child lying there in agony..." on and on and on. Why did he get on the phone????? She went on to say that Julie had to get in on it and tell her that she is on Coumadin too. The nerve! All this time I am thinking to myself, "this was elective surgery." "she signed up for this." "this was not an emergency, or an illness, nor will it add to life expectancy." How much shock and awe can I really muster over this? Hmmm, who was it who said "7 hours, major surgery, all in a doctor's office??? That's insane!!!!!!!" Yes, it was I. And you. And you. And all the semi-sane people of this world. Why didn't I just watch those extreme makeover shows as I was told, this would all make so much more sense. The trip has been exhausting and they can't wait to "get the h out of here." Only Mike could come up with a quote as gay as that one. In fact, the trip has been so intense and serious that they have only used the pool once! I just love the way they act like they are caring for a sick child, that they now know the pain that parents of sick children go through. It's. Not. The. Same. Whack also said that Patient Daughter has an extremely low pain threshhold so she is on maximum amounts of narcotics 24 hours a day. I tend to think that a person's pain threshhold is not a genetic trait that they just happen to be stuck with. They both asked about the plants. Several times, in fact. (Comment on this)